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		<title>By: Nature versus Nurture. &#171; Assorted Mundanities.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nature versus Nurture. &#171; Assorted Mundanities.</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] C March 29th, 2008 10:38:Hello,My mother is schizophrenic, my brother was as well.My brother died last year, at age 53. He [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Researchers Ponder an Entirely Genetic Basis for the Development of Schizophrenia : Doctor Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Researchers Ponder an Entirely Genetic Basis for the Development of Schizophrenia : Doctor Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO PEOPLE!
MENTAL ILNESSES ARE NOT REAL!OPEN YOUR EYES! HOW MUCH DO SUPPOSED MEDICINES FOR MENTAL ILNESSE COST? A LOT! MENTAL ILLNESSES ARE THE WAY THAT PHYCIATRISTS MAKE THIER MONEY. DUR DUR DUR!</description>
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MENTAL ILNESSES ARE NOT REAL!OPEN YOUR EYES! HOW MUCH DO SUPPOSED MEDICINES FOR MENTAL ILNESSE COST? A LOT! MENTAL ILLNESSES ARE THE WAY THAT PHYCIATRISTS MAKE THIER MONEY. DUR DUR DUR!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting response</description>
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		<title>By: Belinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone  who  has a strong  interest  in this  subject  should  at least  look  at the  work  of Julian  Jaynes  -  The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Olga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a psychiatric survivor and a recovered “schizophrenic”. Schizophrenia is the label given to those whose trauma is not acknowledged, ignored or perhaps when your break down occurs you were unable to talk about it either through repression or fear. If your trauma is acknowledged then you will most likely be given the diagnosis along the lines of a post traumatic stress syndrome which results in a far more humane treatment and inevitably also more choice in the kind of treatment available. Being stigmatized and ostracized from society is less likely to occur if you are given any other kind of label than the schizophrenic label. As a schizophrenic in the western world you are one of the most stigmatized outcasts there is with the result that getting back into society as a valued member of society is almost impossible. Recovery has to be made against incredible odds and not many have the strength determination and shear will to overcome these odds.

Your outrage Bill is so understandable and I do so agree with you in what you say, however personally I have long ago realized that rage drives people away confirming them in their belief system that, in this case genetics and biochemistry is the right answer. I reserve my rage and outrage for those who can rage with me for afterwards to go out calmly and face those who not only are so sure that they have the answer but also the power to enforce their answers on many poor souls who wander lost around the corridors of the institutions and streets today. I argue with the same tools they use to present alternative theories and the theory that perhaps there are other ways of looking at schizophrenia and mental illness. 

But most importantly I introduce tools to those who are suffering so as to enable them to re-empower themselves. I give staff and families who have realized that established psychiatry does not have all the answers and who want to change things, tools to help them help those who suffer and slowly but surely a new consciousness is entering into the world of psychiatry. I waste little time with those who are so determined to reject any thought of alternatives and believe that by building up an alternative, alongside established biological psychiatry, we reach far more people and we do not tire ourselves out or use all our energy fighting a headlong battle against biological psychiatry. You and many, many others realize that established psychiatry is not the answer but whereas before there were no alternative answers and very few ways of helping, things have changed and today there is.

Everyone who has even the remotest interest in psychiatry and especially those who wish to work within the psychiatric field should read Mad In America by Roger Whitaker. Marius Romme professor in Psychiatry has done pioneer work on voices and voice hearing one of the so called “major symptoms” of schizophrenia. His research and subsequent help has shown that 2/3rds of those who hear voices never become users of the psychiatric system and have no problems with being a voice hearer living normal lives whatever normal many be. Working with the remaining 1/3 who have problems with their voices, and who do become users of the system usually diagnosed as schizophrenics, is of tremendous help. It is the relationship to the voices that is the problem not the fact that they hear voices. 

For those of you suffering locate your nearest hearing voices network and get support from others who know what it is like and come through it. There are many websites for example www.intervoiceonline.org who inform enlighten and give hope. Google recovery and schizophrenia. 

But above all we must be open to the fact that there is not just one explanation and what works for one person is not necessarily going to work for someone else and forcing them to adhere to your explanation (and here I am referring mostly to the psychiatric system) opens the door to abuse on many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a psychiatric survivor and a recovered “schizophrenic”. Schizophrenia is the label given to those whose trauma is not acknowledged, ignored or perhaps when your break down occurs you were unable to talk about it either through repression or fear. If your trauma is acknowledged then you will most likely be given the diagnosis along the lines of a post traumatic stress syndrome which results in a far more humane treatment and inevitably also more choice in the kind of treatment available. Being stigmatized and ostracized from society is less likely to occur if you are given any other kind of label than the schizophrenic label. As a schizophrenic in the western world you are one of the most stigmatized outcasts there is with the result that getting back into society as a valued member of society is almost impossible. Recovery has to be made against incredible odds and not many have the strength determination and shear will to overcome these odds.</p>
<p>Your outrage Bill is so understandable and I do so agree with you in what you say, however personally I have long ago realized that rage drives people away confirming them in their belief system that, in this case genetics and biochemistry is the right answer. I reserve my rage and outrage for those who can rage with me for afterwards to go out calmly and face those who not only are so sure that they have the answer but also the power to enforce their answers on many poor souls who wander lost around the corridors of the institutions and streets today. I argue with the same tools they use to present alternative theories and the theory that perhaps there are other ways of looking at schizophrenia and mental illness. </p>
<p>But most importantly I introduce tools to those who are suffering so as to enable them to re-empower themselves. I give staff and families who have realized that established psychiatry does not have all the answers and who want to change things, tools to help them help those who suffer and slowly but surely a new consciousness is entering into the world of psychiatry. I waste little time with those who are so determined to reject any thought of alternatives and believe that by building up an alternative, alongside established biological psychiatry, we reach far more people and we do not tire ourselves out or use all our energy fighting a headlong battle against biological psychiatry. You and many, many others realize that established psychiatry is not the answer but whereas before there were no alternative answers and very few ways of helping, things have changed and today there is.</p>
<p>Everyone who has even the remotest interest in psychiatry and especially those who wish to work within the psychiatric field should read Mad In America by Roger Whitaker. Marius Romme professor in Psychiatry has done pioneer work on voices and voice hearing one of the so called “major symptoms” of schizophrenia. His research and subsequent help has shown that 2/3rds of those who hear voices never become users of the psychiatric system and have no problems with being a voice hearer living normal lives whatever normal many be. Working with the remaining 1/3 who have problems with their voices, and who do become users of the system usually diagnosed as schizophrenics, is of tremendous help. It is the relationship to the voices that is the problem not the fact that they hear voices. </p>
<p>For those of you suffering locate your nearest hearing voices network and get support from others who know what it is like and come through it. There are many websites for example <a href="http://www.intervoiceonline.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.intervoiceonline.org</a> who inform enlighten and give hope. Google recovery and schizophrenia. </p>
<p>But above all we must be open to the fact that there is not just one explanation and what works for one person is not necessarily going to work for someone else and forcing them to adhere to your explanation (and here I am referring mostly to the psychiatric system) opens the door to abuse on many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schizophrenic's reproduction rate is low as it often difficult to find a mate if  youre one  of the most hated pariah classes of humanity, if it was genetic, it would have been breeded out over millions of years. You suck.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can't see its easier to blame a gene that hasn't even been found, than face up to the reality that psychiatry's relentless faith in its unproven ideas, combined with its social and political power to destroy the psyche in one swoop, combined with misguided lifelong neurological drug perturbment is responsible for the lifelong mentally ill. It is manufactured, by the misguided way the system deals with initial distress and overwhelm. The scale of the truth, the scale of the IATROGENIC harm done, is so large, and so mind boggling, that its easier to blame organic neurology, even when 50 years of searching for a defect in every possible way, has come  up with nil.

150 in a study is a [explicit] joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#8217;t see its easier to blame a gene that hasn&#8217;t even been found, than face up to the reality that psychiatry&#8217;s relentless faith in its unproven ideas, combined with its social and political power to destroy the psyche in one swoop, combined with misguided lifelong neurological drug perturbment is responsible for the lifelong mentally ill. It is manufactured, by the misguided way the system deals with initial distress and overwhelm. The scale of the truth, the scale of the IATROGENIC harm done, is so large, and so mind boggling, that its easier to blame organic neurology, even when 50 years of searching for a defect in every possible way, has come  up with nil.</p>
<p>150 in a study is a [explicit] joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any so called 'schizophrenic' who says he is doing good on meds, and getting a degree, and gold medals etc... I don't care. I ask you this...

Given that the drugs you take dull, numb and perturb organic neurological processes, deplete executive function and general cognitive ability.... and are designed to perterb... are you.... certain in any way,.... that if you were thinking and feeling and living with your organic neurology, that you wouldn't be clearer, better, stronger, experiencing more acutely every human experience across the whole gamut of feelings? No you are not. You're in a chemical straight jacket, few percent of you are moderately high functioning, that's not to say you haven't been taken for a  ride and it is not to say your organic neurology has been scientifically proven to be defective in any way.

There is no known defect. The mechanics of the drug action do not relate to any proven biomechanics of delusion, the name antipsychotic is a misnomer, as is antidepressant, NO DRUG exists that can accurately manipulate specifcal neuronal activity known to be the depression or the delusion. So you're swallowing toxic crap that acts globally on the neurology, and perterbs it GLOBALLY. 

You have no idea how clear, fresh, lucid I am, now that I am off meds. There is no disease to medicate and its all a fraudulent load of rubbish.

You claim to be functioning... Will you ever not let shrinks and fear planted in you by them rob you of ever experiencing your true self? Or are you going to put on the chemical straight jacket every morning? If so, demand biomarkers, demand biological tests. NONE WILL OR CAN BE PROVIDED, of any repute anyway.

[explicit] pharmacaust, globally. And you fools think some phantom organic DEFECT is to blame for the homeless on the streets? No [explicit] way... it's the way the initial psychosis is treated, the way the people
s identity is smeared needlessly by the label, and seriously [explicit] you all.

I'm an 'untreated' former 'schizophrenic'....in everything that ever happened the only objective fact that ever occured, was five days of psychosis, whose organic origin is out the window because it happened days after a death in the family.... All the crap that was forced into my head by the shrinks about my 'disease' whose 'onset' I had just 'witnessed' was false, all the chemical poisoning which occured in the years aftward, was not based on any objective science, and any pressure to not breed, was equally false and misguided.

The power of suggestion, the self fulfilling prophecy is never looked at by the studies... but if they did they would find the terrible truth. Untreated initial psychoses (read also unlabeled hence identity and self esteem not ruined) in the developing world without the application of the ideology of western biopsychiatry, do much better than those who get sick in the west. This proves that the treatments not only work, but harm the situation.

Initial psychoses, are always surrounded by psychosocial stressors, which proves its environmental. The foolish biopsychiatrist biological determinist reductionist morons would say that's a 'trigger' for the mystery 'gene' to come into effect, all sounds a bit like magical thinking to me.

Because it is.

If your kid ever gets delusional. Tie them up, gag them, if needed. Listen to them, their narratives do make sense, all the spew that comes out their minds, is stuff that was put in there by experiences they've had. The confused state of 'overwhelm' is completely human, normal, can happen to ANYONE, not just some subset of MARKED, genetic underclass carriers of alleged 'gene causation' there is no gene, has never been found, it can happen to any of you tomorrow, regardless of whether your family has had contact with psychiatry. If it does happen to your kid, keep them away from a psychiatrist, which means keep them away from anybody but you.

It will pass. If you opt to involve psychiatry. The kid will get biologically raped with drugs, as state extralegal powers are applied to force psychiatry's unproven ideologies on your child, your child will be sedated almost to extinction, sat in a chair, and in this sedated state, the reduced faculty state, will be indoctrinated into thinking they are helpless and have a disease, AND BAD GENES.

The child's life will then gradually disintegrate, its brain will turn into a prune from the drugs, he will get fat, lose all self esteem as he is forced and condemned to wear the stamp of DEFECT on his forehead for the rest of his life. You will unnecessarily never see him engage as an equal in his community again, and he will likely die young, after a short, sickly, nasty, brutish life. 

Never turn to psychiatry to help with overwhelmed minds. They have an ideology, of fear, biological determinism, learned helplessness, and utter destruction. Most importantly they offer no HOPE. And wield the power to destroy all hope forever with the stroke of one man's pen. Even a rapist gets a jury of his peers, not so the condemned psychotic.

Never present, stay the [explicit] at home, and by god never ever let a shrink near you kid.  

I'm going fine, and I don't see why</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any so called &#8217;schizophrenic&#8217; who says he is doing good on meds, and getting a degree, and gold medals etc&#8230; I don&#8217;t care. I ask you this&#8230;</p>
<p>Given that the drugs you take dull, numb and perturb organic neurological processes, deplete executive function and general cognitive ability&#8230;. and are designed to perterb&#8230; are you&#8230;. certain in any way,&#8230;. that if you were thinking and feeling and living with your organic neurology, that you wouldn&#8217;t be clearer, better, stronger, experiencing more acutely every human experience across the whole gamut of feelings? No you are not. You&#8217;re in a chemical straight jacket, few percent of you are moderately high functioning, that&#8217;s not to say you haven&#8217;t been taken for a  ride and it is not to say your organic neurology has been scientifically proven to be defective in any way.</p>
<p>There is no known defect. The mechanics of the drug action do not relate to any proven biomechanics of delusion, the name antipsychotic is a misnomer, as is antidepressant, NO DRUG exists that can accurately manipulate specifcal neuronal activity known to be the depression or the delusion. So you&#8217;re swallowing toxic crap that acts globally on the neurology, and perterbs it GLOBALLY. </p>
<p>You have no idea how clear, fresh, lucid I am, now that I am off meds. There is no disease to medicate and its all a fraudulent load of rubbish.</p>
<p>You claim to be functioning&#8230; Will you ever not let shrinks and fear planted in you by them rob you of ever experiencing your true self? Or are you going to put on the chemical straight jacket every morning? If so, demand biomarkers, demand biological tests. NONE WILL OR CAN BE PROVIDED, of any repute anyway.</p>
<p>[explicit] pharmacaust, globally. And you fools think some phantom organic DEFECT is to blame for the homeless on the streets? No [explicit] way&#8230; it&#8217;s the way the initial psychosis is treated, the way the people<br />
s identity is smeared needlessly by the label, and seriously [explicit] you all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an &#8216;untreated&#8217; former &#8217;schizophrenic&#8217;&#8230;.in everything that ever happened the only objective fact that ever occured, was five days of psychosis, whose organic origin is out the window because it happened days after a death in the family&#8230;. All the crap that was forced into my head by the shrinks about my &#8216;disease&#8217; whose &#8216;onset&#8217; I had just &#8216;witnessed&#8217; was false, all the chemical poisoning which occured in the years aftward, was not based on any objective science, and any pressure to not breed, was equally false and misguided.</p>
<p>The power of suggestion, the self fulfilling prophecy is never looked at by the studies&#8230; but if they did they would find the terrible truth. Untreated initial psychoses (read also unlabeled hence identity and self esteem not ruined) in the developing world without the application of the ideology of western biopsychiatry, do much better than those who get sick in the west. This proves that the treatments not only work, but harm the situation.</p>
<p>Initial psychoses, are always surrounded by psychosocial stressors, which proves its environmental. The foolish biopsychiatrist biological determinist reductionist morons would say that&#8217;s a &#8216;trigger&#8217; for the mystery &#8216;gene&#8217; to come into effect, all sounds a bit like magical thinking to me.</p>
<p>Because it is.</p>
<p>If your kid ever gets delusional. Tie them up, gag them, if needed. Listen to them, their narratives do make sense, all the spew that comes out their minds, is stuff that was put in there by experiences they&#8217;ve had. The confused state of &#8216;overwhelm&#8217; is completely human, normal, can happen to ANYONE, not just some subset of MARKED, genetic underclass carriers of alleged &#8216;gene causation&#8217; there is no gene, has never been found, it can happen to any of you tomorrow, regardless of whether your family has had contact with psychiatry. If it does happen to your kid, keep them away from a psychiatrist, which means keep them away from anybody but you.</p>
<p>It will pass. If you opt to involve psychiatry. The kid will get biologically raped with drugs, as state extralegal powers are applied to force psychiatry&#8217;s unproven ideologies on your child, your child will be sedated almost to extinction, sat in a chair, and in this sedated state, the reduced faculty state, will be indoctrinated into thinking they are helpless and have a disease, AND BAD GENES.</p>
<p>The child&#8217;s life will then gradually disintegrate, its brain will turn into a prune from the drugs, he will get fat, lose all self esteem as he is forced and condemned to wear the stamp of DEFECT on his forehead for the rest of his life. You will unnecessarily never see him engage as an equal in his community again, and he will likely die young, after a short, sickly, nasty, brutish life. </p>
<p>Never turn to psychiatry to help with overwhelmed minds. They have an ideology, of fear, biological determinism, learned helplessness, and utter destruction. Most importantly they offer no HOPE. And wield the power to destroy all hope forever with the stroke of one man&#8217;s pen. Even a rapist gets a jury of his peers, not so the condemned psychotic.</p>
<p>Never present, stay the [explicit] at home, and by god never ever let a shrink near you kid.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going fine, and I don&#8217;t see why</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're all one eyed, narrow focused biological determinists, and you're the antichrist. Read 'The Gene Illusion' by Jay Joseph, there are hundreds of thousands of 'professionals' heavily invested and biased towards psychiatric diagnoses being 1) real diseases and 2) of organic origin. There is no disease, and there is no gene. You've all swallowed a 50 year PR spin from Big Pharma and the APA.

I don't care if you say you have schizophrenia, you don't. You've had an initial nervous breakdown, when young, and your body and brain have never been returned to organic neurology since then, thanks to guesswork pharmacology and neurological perterbation by design, resulting in further drug induced psychosis, or the initial one not healing and resolving, which it often does. In addition the psychosocial factors at play in the self fulfilling prophecy of the power of suggestion from psychiatry that  you have a disease for life, the downward spiral begins. It's sad you were living on the street and now you are in a chemical straight jacket. The doesn't prove that you have an organic 'brain disease' that is rampantly causing symptoms at all, it could far easier be that initial trauma has never healed, and spending decades on the most filthy guesswork pharmacology hasn't helped. It's the stress, and the fear that play the  biggest part in further symptoms. It's not a disease, it was voted into existence, and you're all completely wrong if you think its genetic.

If your father has a breakdown after taking some drugs, or having a life event, and ends up in front of a shrink, he's that much more likely to take you to one to deal with any problems you have, and the gene illusion is created. There is no genetic component to specific classes of thought, and to think there is, is just pseudoscience and wishful thinking...

And the moron who said "He was writing before we knew as much about the chemical structure of the brain." That's BS, Laing died in 1989 for christ's sake. And do we have a biological test to determine any dosage of any psychodrug? No. It's a pathetic flimsy pseudoscience, and the only drugs in its arsenal, are blanket, all encompassing, cognitive function destroyers, that mask not only symptoms, but every color and hue of the human experience, ever thought and every human feeling. Hardly advanced science I would say pal.

Anyone who claims that they are schizophrenic, and that drugs saved their life would be challenged to scientifically explain by what mechanism they were saved. I would also ask you, in your initial psychosis, what life events preceded it, what illicit drug use, bad diet, heavy smoking, anything preceded it. And then, on what basis were you not diagnosed with brief reactive psychosis, what was the reason you had to be tagged with the most serious mental illness there is? What biological tests were given? None. Would you have gone to sleep and healed? Yes. Has your body and brain lived a day not under attack by guesswork chemistry toxic assault drugs since? No. And have you ever tapered off  slowly to become psychotic again? And could it be thagt your initial psychosis never even healed because you were not afforded the opportunity to rest in your natural organic drug free state for a few weeks, instead you are pummeled for decades with toxic drugs by the shrinks, which create mood swings and psychosis further, and saddled with the extreme stress of living as a pariah in society that no longer trusts you, madness, beyond its initial appearance, is ALWAYS prolonged, and PERPETUATED by the TREATMENT AND LABELING ITSELF. Its a little known fact, and it can't be proven wrong. Psychiatry is a faith based initiative brought to you by Eli Lilly.

WHO studies show, those whose initial psychosis is untreated by neuroleptics have far better long term outcomes than those who are placed in the chemical straight jacket  for life and labeled a pariah based on a checklist.

[edited explicit content] psychiatry, [explicit] anyone who blindly trusts this 'science' and stay the [explicit] away from it if you don't want your body and mind raped, and your identity smeared and ruined, [explicit] you EUGENIC pieces of [explicit].

You're [explicit] wrong. There is no gene, the fruitless search goes on... and it will forever. Because there is no disease. You can 'get diagnosed' with this disease if you take illegal drugs and flip out, you can get diagnosed with this disease if you act out in school, there is so many many and varied ways to get this diagnosis, and NONE OF THEM INCLUDE DEVELOPING A KNOWN LESION OR PROVEN KNOWN IMBALANCE OF ANY KIND.

Sure drugs can manipulate brain states. Pharma and illicit, we know this. We don't understand [explicit] about what is going on in the psychotic mind, and its usually acute for only a few days out of an uneventful life of tens of thousands of days. The rationale, without a biological test, to place someone on society's scrapheap and drug their minds for the rest of their lives, is simply evil and sick, and there is no rational reason for doing this.

I say again... what percentage, in the west, of initial psychoses are allowed simply to heal like bodily trauma, a cut on you leg for instance, with rest, love and understanding. Instead we give people a daily chemical lobotomy, like ripping open a healing cut every day for the rest of their lives, and expect the psychosis to go away? It is madness. And i've had enough of coming back to this page and reading your ignorant, biological determinist crap.

You sick, evil eugenic [explicit]. A pox on your house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all one eyed, narrow focused biological determinists, and you&#8217;re the antichrist. Read &#8216;The Gene Illusion&#8217; by Jay Joseph, there are hundreds of thousands of &#8216;professionals&#8217; heavily invested and biased towards psychiatric diagnoses being 1) real diseases and 2) of organic origin. There is no disease, and there is no gene. You&#8217;ve all swallowed a 50 year PR spin from Big Pharma and the APA.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if you say you have schizophrenia, you don&#8217;t. You&#8217;ve had an initial nervous breakdown, when young, and your body and brain have never been returned to organic neurology since then, thanks to guesswork pharmacology and neurological perterbation by design, resulting in further drug induced psychosis, or the initial one not healing and resolving, which it often does. In addition the psychosocial factors at play in the self fulfilling prophecy of the power of suggestion from psychiatry that  you have a disease for life, the downward spiral begins. It&#8217;s sad you were living on the street and now you are in a chemical straight jacket. The doesn&#8217;t prove that you have an organic &#8216;brain disease&#8217; that is rampantly causing symptoms at all, it could far easier be that initial trauma has never healed, and spending decades on the most filthy guesswork pharmacology hasn&#8217;t helped. It&#8217;s the stress, and the fear that play the  biggest part in further symptoms. It&#8217;s not a disease, it was voted into existence, and you&#8217;re all completely wrong if you think its genetic.</p>
<p>If your father has a breakdown after taking some drugs, or having a life event, and ends up in front of a shrink, he&#8217;s that much more likely to take you to one to deal with any problems you have, and the gene illusion is created. There is no genetic component to specific classes of thought, and to think there is, is just pseudoscience and wishful thinking&#8230;</p>
<p>And the moron who said &#8220;He was writing before we knew as much about the chemical structure of the brain.&#8221; That&#8217;s BS, Laing died in 1989 for christ&#8217;s sake. And do we have a biological test to determine any dosage of any psychodrug? No. It&#8217;s a pathetic flimsy pseudoscience, and the only drugs in its arsenal, are blanket, all encompassing, cognitive function destroyers, that mask not only symptoms, but every color and hue of the human experience, ever thought and every human feeling. Hardly advanced science I would say pal.</p>
<p>Anyone who claims that they are schizophrenic, and that drugs saved their life would be challenged to scientifically explain by what mechanism they were saved. I would also ask you, in your initial psychosis, what life events preceded it, what illicit drug use, bad diet, heavy smoking, anything preceded it. And then, on what basis were you not diagnosed with brief reactive psychosis, what was the reason you had to be tagged with the most serious mental illness there is? What biological tests were given? None. Would you have gone to sleep and healed? Yes. Has your body and brain lived a day not under attack by guesswork chemistry toxic assault drugs since? No. And have you ever tapered off  slowly to become psychotic again? And could it be thagt your initial psychosis never even healed because you were not afforded the opportunity to rest in your natural organic drug free state for a few weeks, instead you are pummeled for decades with toxic drugs by the shrinks, which create mood swings and psychosis further, and saddled with the extreme stress of living as a pariah in society that no longer trusts you, madness, beyond its initial appearance, is ALWAYS prolonged, and PERPETUATED by the TREATMENT AND LABELING ITSELF. Its a little known fact, and it can&#8217;t be proven wrong. Psychiatry is a faith based initiative brought to you by Eli Lilly.</p>
<p>WHO studies show, those whose initial psychosis is untreated by neuroleptics have far better long term outcomes than those who are placed in the chemical straight jacket  for life and labeled a pariah based on a checklist.</p>
<p>[edited explicit content] psychiatry, [explicit] anyone who blindly trusts this &#8217;science&#8217; and stay the [explicit] away from it if you don&#8217;t want your body and mind raped, and your identity smeared and ruined, [explicit] you EUGENIC pieces of [explicit].</p>
<p>You&#8217;re [explicit] wrong. There is no gene, the fruitless search goes on&#8230; and it will forever. Because there is no disease. You can &#8216;get diagnosed&#8217; with this disease if you take illegal drugs and flip out, you can get diagnosed with this disease if you act out in school, there is so many many and varied ways to get this diagnosis, and NONE OF THEM INCLUDE DEVELOPING A KNOWN LESION OR PROVEN KNOWN IMBALANCE OF ANY KIND.</p>
<p>Sure drugs can manipulate brain states. Pharma and illicit, we know this. We don&#8217;t understand [explicit] about what is going on in the psychotic mind, and its usually acute for only a few days out of an uneventful life of tens of thousands of days. The rationale, without a biological test, to place someone on society&#8217;s scrapheap and drug their minds for the rest of their lives, is simply evil and sick, and there is no rational reason for doing this.</p>
<p>I say again&#8230; what percentage, in the west, of initial psychoses are allowed simply to heal like bodily trauma, a cut on you leg for instance, with rest, love and understanding. Instead we give people a daily chemical lobotomy, like ripping open a healing cut every day for the rest of their lives, and expect the psychosis to go away? It is madness. And i&#8217;ve had enough of coming back to this page and reading your ignorant, biological determinist crap.</p>
<p>You sick, evil eugenic [explicit]. A pox on your house.</p>
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